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FairManor Active Indicator LED Icon 4
~ 4 years ago   Nov 8, '19 6:02am  
Listening to you guys, now I feel I never had any flu before. When I had something I didn't know it's flu or cold, it always happens later afternoon. I felt heavy head, some fever. I usually take some painkiller/cold medicine and go to bed. I usually wake up in the middle of the night and found myself sweat like a pig when everything back to normal. It never lasted more than 24 hours.
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~ 4 years ago   Nov 8, '19 7:52am  
@FairManor :
 
I can assure you it was a bad cold you had not influenza..
My daughter was on holiday it hit her immediately, a dry cough, high fever and had to go to hospital on intravenous fluid.. the doc said a temp of 102 and above is usually the flu.
 
My friends son died he was a navy seal got the flu ,was in hospital and had a massive heart attack from the medication the antiobiotic Zpak and something else.... I won't have Zpak anymore I had bad effects from it... I always ask for the old drugs never anything new... you can try the new ones out for me lol!
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~ 4 years ago   Nov 8, '19 8:04am  
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~ 4 years ago   Nov 8, '19 8:20am  
@RedPanda :
 
I just don't trust these new drugs... I had to have Zpak three times when I had bronchitis, it didn't work and they gave me steroids took one, thought I was dying , ..threw the whole lot away and started drinking hot chicken broth with ginger and onions in , i got better fast !
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~ 4 years ago   Nov 8, '19 8:35am  
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~ 4 years ago   Nov 8, '19 11:59am  
BTW, a quick survey: any of you found yourself having less flu after flu shots over the years?
 
@FairManor : I've had the flu shot every year. I have not suffered from the flu for decades.
 
Can't prove there is a direct correlation/causation, but if it ain't broke I won't fix it.
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FairManor Active Indicator LED Icon 4
~ 4 years ago   Nov 8, '19 3:52pm  
@HiHoNeighbor : Did you have more flu before starting flu shots?
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~ 4 years ago   Nov 8, '19 5:10pm  
I had the flu the first year that we moved here. The kids were young and in school and I thought I was going to die. I would get up in the morning and take them to school and come home and get back into bed until I had to pick them up and take them to extracurriculars. My husband was on a temporary assignment in another state and I will never forget how miserable I was. After that experience I vowed that I would get a flu shot each year. About four years ago a close friend of mine caught the flu and died before they could get her a spot on the ECMO machine. My aunt died two years ago because of complications from the flu. I take it very seriously.
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FairManor Active Indicator LED Icon 4
~ 4 years ago   Nov 9, '19 7:22am  
Here is CDC data concerning flu shot effectiveness (VE): www.cdc.gov/flu/vacc ines-work/2018-2019. html
I call it very ineffective or better than nothing. So if flu is a big deal to you, you may want to get ready for it (keep hospital/doctor/medicine, etc. information on you all the time, with or without flu shot).
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~ 4 years ago   Nov 9, '19 7:28am  
@cabeuser : Me too!! I had the flu horrible for many, many weeks in 1999 and 2001 and had to work the whole time. And once I heard about the flu shot I started getting it and have ever since. So many people do not take it seriously but I am not one of them.
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DEEDEE8 Active Indicator LED Icon 4
~ 4 years ago   Nov 9, '19 7:41am  
@FairManor : You know when you have the flu, trust me.
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~ 4 years ago   Nov 9, '19 8:13am  
@FairManor :
 
After what I read on your post did I miss something, lol you called it very ineffective or better than nothing....when you scroll down the page it's all positive for flu shots... I am perplexed by our different outcomes , when I get back I will go over it slowly, I just woke up I might have a problem 😂😂😂
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~ 4 years ago   Nov 9, '19 8:26am  
The adjusted VE is below 50% in general. Try to imagine any even over the counter medicine, a painkiller, for example. If it's only effective to less than 50% of the people, do you think FDA will allow it on the market?
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~ 4 years ago   Nov 9, '19 12:12pm  
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~ 4 years ago   Nov 9, '19 12:51pm  
The problem is still FDA will not even let you sell a painkiller with this kind of data!
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