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Starlight13 Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 4 years ago   Nov 2, '19 10:59pm  
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I did not know about a downer animal, that is disgusting practice, unbelievably cruel.. you are what you eat and if you eat that it must effect body mind and soul... wake up people! We deserve the catastrophes of nature, the way we inhumanly treat animals and the planet with our garbage.
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sa1111 Active Indicator LED Icon 1
~ 4 years ago   Nov 3, '19 12:11pm  
@Starlight13 : You eat what they eat. There's a ruminant feed ban on which foods shouldn't or should be fed to ruminants, but the thing is animal feed isn't really regulated. It's prohibited to feed certain materials, which include pet food, to ruminants because of the possible BSE/mad cow disease that could be in it. The strangest thing is pig, poultry, fish, and horse can get fed these same materials, then those animals can be fed to cows. Seems very comforting, you think? Take a look at this article. www.reuters.com/arti cle/us-usa-livestock -diets/u-s-cows-and- pigs-gorge-on-b
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Starlight13 Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 4 years ago   Nov 3, '19 1:12pm  
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This is unbelievable...for the average person buying meat products ,have no idea they are really eating outdated pet food and old baked goods ..
 
I wonder why Doctors do not try to find the cause of their patients chronic illnesses.. wouldn't food be a good start, but then they don't have time to investigate the depth of it... it's only a few that tread that path of wellness as illness is a business!
 
My grandfather in Italy in the 5Os would not let us eat corn, he said it's for the pigs,...that towns only hospital went out of business as it's rarely used today... I didn't mean it went out of business because of the corn lol! They eat what they grow and the animals feed on the grass...
 
it's a shame we seem to think today .. they wouldn't do that to us... but they will do anything for money disregarding the damage they are doing to both people and animals .
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~ 4 years ago   Nov 3, '19 6:40pm  
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Starlight13 Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 4 years ago   Nov 3, '19 7:34pm  
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Well said!
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sa1111 Active Indicator LED Icon 1
~ 4 years ago   Nov 3, '19 7:55pm  
@Starlight13 : If one is not educated on the food labels or animal welfare, a person can be really mislead. USDA organic can come from factory farms, "natural" animals can still be administered hormones and antibiotics, "grass-fed" cows can still be in factory farms not actually grazing and in feedlots. This is off-topic, but another thing that I think about with farming is habitat loss with wildlife. Almost every animal I do research on, it's always "declining in population" from all these man-made factors.
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Starlight13 Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 4 years ago   Nov 3, '19 8:11pm  
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My daughter just told me the pasture raised organic eggs I sometimes buy ( usually I get them from a local farm) are also fed GMO grains... think it's Vital Farms brand..
I am sure that it all effects the wild life population..
 
Some might think I am a nut case thinking this ( and that's ok :-) ) but I can't help but think all the concrete we keep covering the earth with , is eventually going to have a bad effect, it's surely like suffocating the planet the rate it's going... any thoughts?
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sa1111 Active Indicator LED Icon 1
~ 4 years ago   Nov 3, '19 8:48pm  
@Starlight13 : I've heard of Vital Farms, there main farm is in Austin. From what I know, organic can't have GMOs. I agree on "suffocating the planet". It will only be getting worse in worse. I shake my fist at our hunter and gatherer ancestors for farming. I did some research on some hunter and gathers that exist today, and they are happy people who respect wildlife. Hadza tribe, one man said, "This land is of the animals, and we are only borrowing it". Sad part is their land is getting taken away. Like 90 percent of their land has been taken in the last 50 years. The same man said, "We soon will disappear." Those people are extremely healthy, and their 80-year olds have the same energy level as 20-years olds.
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Starlight13 Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 4 years ago   Nov 3, '19 9:35pm  
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You are right... it was vital farms pasture raised , not organic, the pasture raised are supplemented with GMO feed... the organic, pasture raised are not fed GMO grain...I thought pasture raised was ok, but it's not, very misleading.
 
It's sad they are taking the land from many tribes who live happy healthy lives, it seems the more we are educated the less we care for the planet.
 
I love this young girl Greta Thunberg that's speaking up about saving the planet,.. she's really going to shake the world up!
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~ 4 years ago   Nov 3, '19 10:25pm  
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@Starlight13 : Smart is acquiring knowledge, and intelligence is what you are born with.
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