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by: CompassionateRebel Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 10:49am  
Read and weep about the so-called Texas miracle.
texaslsg.org/wp-cont ent/uploads/2014/03/ texasonthebrink.pdf
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~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 11:12am  
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CompassionateRebel Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 11:28am  
"OK, this was 2013. There was no miracle., not sure why it is called that."
Honestly, you have no idea why it's called the Texas miracle? I'll give you a clue. Sometimes is known as burying your head in the sand.
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~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 11:42am  
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~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 1:56pm  
sillystring writes:
No, I had no clue! Still doesn't seem relative, but that is just me.
 
All states have issues, same as us.
**Sure they do. They just not at the bottom of the pile or called themselves "Miracle."
 
We can give $$ to people in need, but we cannot force them to feed their kids. We can send children to school, but we cannot force their parents to be involved or have good parenting skills.
**But "we" surely can love the fetus but hate the child.
 
We cannot force anything or any changes.
**Except for women and minorities, including gays.
 
We have good teachers and good schools, but we cannot force a child to learn.
**Not can we force a legislator to vote to cut school funding.
 
We cannot force adult children to provide help for their elderly parents or be their advocates.
**You are describing a pre-Medicaid, pre-Social Security era. It didn't turn out well then, it would be worst today.

A lot of the issues the state has is because of the irresponsible people who live here.

**I"m sure all states have their share of irresponsible people. The difference being that in Texas they all seem to be in the legislature
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~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 1:57pm  
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CompassionateRebel Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 2:34pm  
sillystring writes:
That is your opinion.

And the opinion of an ever-increasing number of Americans. The hateful confederate flag is coming down and the loving flag of marriage equality is going up.
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~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 2:43pm  
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CompassionateRebel Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 2:59pm  
sillystring writes:
Confederate flag is not hateful. It is part of our history, whether you like that part of history are not.
 
I am not the least bit approving of gay marriage.
 
Most reasonable folks take the confederate flag to be the symbol of slave owners who wanted to break the Union in order to impose their white supremacy and perpetuate the inhumanity of slavery.
The last sentence I take to be your opinion.
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~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 3:19pm  
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~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 5:53pm  
CompassionateRebel writes:
 
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Confederate flag is not hateful. It is part of our history, whether you like that part of history are not.
 
I am not the least bit approving of gay marriage.
 
Most reasonable folks take the confederate flag to be the symbol of slave owners who wanted to break the Union in order to impose their white supremacy and perpetuate the inhumanity of slavery.
The last sentence I take to be your opinion.
 
That it is ludicrous. Most reasonable people know that the flag everyone has a problem with was a BATTLE flag and not the National flag of the Confederate States. Most reasonable people know that slavery was just one cause. Most reasonable people know that until the 13th Amendment passed there were five UNION states who kept their slaves.
 
Do I agree with it flying over state buildings, no. But it is part of the U.S. History and even though it is a dark part of History, it is not a part we should push under the rug, but educate people about it.
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~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 6:24pm  
TxDeb writes:
 
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>> sillystring writes:
Confederate flag is not hateful. It is part of our history, whether you like that part of history are not.
 
I am not the least bit approving of gay marriage.
 
Most reasonable folks take the confederate flag to be the symbol of slave owners who wanted to break the Union in order to impose their white supremacy and perpetuate the inhumanity of slavery.
The last sentence I take to be your opinion.
 
That it is ludicrous. Most reasonable people know that the flag everyone has a problem with was a BATTLE flag and not the National flag of the Confederate States. Most reasonable people know that slavery was just one cause. Most reasonable people know that until the 13th Amendment passed there were five UNION states who kept their slaves.
 
Do I agree with it flying over state buildings, no. But it is part of the U.S. History and even though it is a dark part of History, it is not a part we should push under the rug, but educate people about it.
 
You state a very naive version of history, one that has been used by those who wish to distance themselves from the awful stain of white supremacy and slavery. I agree that under no circumstances the flag should flight on government property. It belongs in museums and in the private properties of those who wish to associate with the hateful and sordid policies this flag represented.
 
**A Declaration of the Causes which Impel the State of Texas to Secede from the Federal Union.** 1845
...in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states....
www.civilwar.org/edu cation/history/prima rysources/declaratio nofcauses.html#
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~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 6:37pm  
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~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 6:51pm  
sillystring writes:
"na�ve version of history"............lol!
 
I know, debunking those with closed minds and false claims is not easy and it's sometimes funny.
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~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 7:15pm  
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~ 8 years ago   Jun 30, '15 7:25pm  
CompassionateRebel writes:
 
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"na�ve version of history"............lol!
 
I know, debunking those with closed minds and false claims is not easy and it's sometimes funny.
 
No false claims here. There were more causes than just slavery, it was one but things had been building for 25 years in the US. The differences between the North and South were great. It sounds like you are the one with the closed mind to think that it was just slavery.
 
The North was fighting to preserve the Union and not to get rid of slavery. The South had several reasons, slavery was just the last straw. The Election of Lincoln caused them to secede.
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