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Romney/Ryan
By: maltese
Oct 21, 2012 - 10:12 am
Romney/Ryan supporter, anyone else with me? I think this country needs a major overhaul.


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Re: Romney/Ryan
By: CecilQ
Oct 21, 2012 - 10:28 am
Nope. All Obama/Biden supporters here. If we were to elect the corporatist and his Objectivist running mate the country would soon resemble medieval Europe.


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Re: Romney/Ryan
Oct 21, 2012 - 10:53 am
yes, plenty of Romney/Ryan supporters here.

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Re: Romney/Ryan
By: maltese
Oct 21, 2012 - 11:32 am
Why thank you silly string, that's just what I wanted to hear.


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Re: Romney/Ryan
By: texbuck
Oct 21, 2012 - 11:54 am
Is anyone out there not in favor of the electoral system besides me? The 38 electoral votes in Texas are already in Romney's column regardless of who you vote for in this state. The popular vote should decide the winner when it's all said and done and that really doesn't matter.


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Re: Romney/Ryan
Oct 21, 2012 - 11:55 am
Romney is not a miracle worker and he definitely has his work cut out for him.

I do believe he has the ability to lead, to work both sides of the aisle and come to agreeable compromises. I think he will get this country back on track, get the respect back this great nation deserves and start ridding Washinton of wasted causes.

I believe he will be a great president.

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Re: Romney/Ryan
By: CecilQ
Oct 21, 2012 - 02:52 pm
texbuck writes:
Is anyone out there not in favor of the electoral system besides me? The 38 electoral votes in Texas are already in Romney's column regardless of who you vote for in this state. The popular vote should decide the winner when it's all said and done and that really doesn't matter.



The Electoral College system gives disproportional power to the states with smaller populations just as does the Senate and those states will prohibit change.



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Re: Romney/Ryan
Oct 21, 2012 - 08:22 pm
CecilQ writes:
texbuck writes:
Is anyone out there not in favor of the electoral system besides me? The 38 electoral votes in Texas are already in Romney's column regardless of who you vote for in this state. The popular vote should decide the winner when it's all said and done and that really doesn't matter.



The Electoral College system gives disproportional power to the states with smaller populations just as does the Senate and those states will prohibit change.



I believe the electoral college system is based on Population.

I support and believe Romney will win. I've had enough of the insanity that goes on in Washington.

Anyone wanting 4 more years of the same nonsense is truly insane.


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Re: Romney/Ryan
By: CecilQ
Oct 21, 2012 - 09:34 pm
to txwoodchuck:

"Unequal voting power depending on where you live

The Electoral College gives disproportionate voting power to states, favoring the smaller states with more electoral votes per person.

For instance, each individual vote in Wyoming counts nearly four times as much in the Electoral College as each individual vote in Texas. This is because Wyoming has three (3) electoral votes for a population of 532,668 citizens (as of 2008 Census Bureau estimates) and Texas has thirty-two (32) electoral votes for a population of almost 25 million. By dividing the population by electoral votes, we can see that Wyoming has one "elector" for every 177,556 people and Texas has one "elector" for about every 715,499. The difference between these two states of 537,943 is the largest in the Electoral College."*

* http://www.fairvote.org/problems-with-the-electoral-


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Re: Romney/Ryan
By: Makk9
Oct 21, 2012 - 10:44 pm
The electoral college definitely weakens the impact of an individual Texan's vote. We still need to go out and vote though. When the day comes where a candidate wins the popular vote but loses the electoral vote, people will demand reform. That to me, is the importance of Texans going out and voting.

We also don't have any say so in the primaries. While I'm happy Romney is the nominee, I really had no say so, via my vote, as to his republican nomination...none whatsoever...the biggest state in the union, no impact at all in that decision.

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Re: Romney/Ryan
By: CecilQ
Oct 21, 2012 - 11:44 pm
Makk9 writes:
The electoral college definitely weakens the impact of an individual Texan's vote. We still need to go out and vote though. When the day comes where a candidate wins the popular vote but loses the electoral vote, people will demand reform. That to me, is the importance of Texans going out and voting.

We also don't have any say so in the primaries. While I'm happy Romney is the nominee, I really had no say so, via my vote, as to his republican nomination...none whatsoever...the biggest state in the union, no impact at all in that decision.



That already happened in the 2000 presidential election:

Gore: 50,999,897; 266
Bush: 50,456,002; 271

No matter how great a percentage of the people want a change, the small states will never surrender their advantage. The Electoral College is here to stay.

Actually, Nixon offered to accept the popular vote as deciding when he ran against Humphrey. Humphrey declined.


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Re: Romney/Ryan
By: djohn78
Oct 22, 2012 - 08:05 am
texbuck writes:
Is anyone out there not in favor of the electoral system besides me? The 38 electoral votes in Texas are already in Romney's column regardless of who you vote for in this state. The popular vote should decide the winner when it's all said and done and that really doesn't matter.



If you eliminate the elecoral college, LA and NYC would decide every election. Look how important states like Iowa and New Hampshire are today. Texas hasn't always been a GOP state. We should feel lucky that our state is solid and your vote contributes to that.


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Re: Romney/Ryan
By: Makk9
Oct 22, 2012 - 08:48 pm
There is no good reason why the popular vote should not decide a presidential election. NYC and LA would not decide the election. Fortunately, there are good conservative voters in each of those places whose votes are equally as meaningless as mine, because there are liberal majorities in those places. What sane reason could there be for anyone to advocate any better way to decide an election but for the majority of the popular vote? There is no better measure of the winning candidate. That's it! It's 2012...time to just count the votes and declare the winner.

The electoral college is pure BS.

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Re: Romney/Ryan
Oct 22, 2012 - 10:15 pm
Makk9 writes:
There is no good reason why the popular vote should not decide a presidential election. NYC and LA would not decide the election. Fortunately, there are good conservative voters in each of those places whose votes are equally as meaningless as mine, because there are liberal majorities in those places. What sane reason could there be for anyone to advocate any better way to decide an election but for the majority of the popular vote? There is no better measure of the winning candidate. That's it! It's 2012...time to just count the votes and declare the winner.

The electoral college is pure BS.



If majority ruled, our National Parks might have billboards, motels, concrete and any animals could be in cages. The parks wouldn't be the only issues if majority ruled.

I don't go a lot of places, but it's good to know that the folks in NYC, LA, and Chicago won't be making policy in those places.

The electoral college is not perfect, but it's here to stay.


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Re: Romney/Ryan
By: djohn78
Oct 23, 2012 - 08:01 am
The electoral college is what separates us from mob rule (which is the true definition of democracy...which is why we are a Republic).


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