I'm neither a Democrat or a Republican, I do not vote straight party lines. I vote the ISSUES. I know a lot of teachers who follow Democratic lines who believe Obama is out of touch on Education, most presidents are, they think Nationalize testing is the way to go. I think kids were better education in the 60-70's then they are now. We weren't mass tested but we also had to master the material. I know people who voted for Obama and now feel like he's let them down.
I really think it you strictly look at things from a party viewpoint then a person isn't being open-minded.
TxDeb writes:
I'm neither a Democrat or a Republican, I do not vote straight party lines. I vote the ISSUES. I know a lot of teachers who follow Democratic lines who believe Obama is out of touch on Education, most presidents are, they think Nationalize testing is the way to go. I think kids were better education in the 60-70's then they are now. We weren't mass tested but we also had to master the material. I know people who voted for Obama and now feel like he's let them down.
I really think it you strictly look at things from a party viewpoint then a person isn't being open-minded.
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I graduated in 1960 from HS. We took the Iowa test......everyone did. How is that kind of testing different from what the test is, today? I know if we were not testing on grade level, we were held back. No one prepared us for the test. We were just expected to be able to pass it. It didn't seem like a big deal back them.
I graduated in 1960 from HS. We took the Iowa test......everyone did. How is that kind of testing different from what the test is, today? I know if we were not testing on grade level, we were held back. No one prepared us for the test. We were just expected to be able to pass it. It didn't seem like a big deal back them.
STONE, I miss the 60's too. It's NOT the 60's anymore.
I graduated in 1960 from HS. We took the Iowa test......everyone did. How is that kind of testing different from what the test is, today? I know if we were not testing on grade level, we were held back. No one prepared us for the test. We were just expected to be able to pass it. It didn't seem like a big deal back them.
I graduated in 1978 from HS. We took the IOWA test, it is NOTHING like the tests the kids take today. They have to pass to be promoted in certain grades, the TAKS tests passing rates were so low it isn't funny. I gather the new STARR test passing rates are higher, but in high school they are called End of Course Exams, isn't that what a final exam is supposed to be? I learned to write all sorts of different types of papers. I'm not an English teacher, but I end up teaching my students how to write, a thesis, a persuasive paper (most 7th graders don't even know what persuasive means), etc. This is why college professors say our kids aren't ready for college.
Originally, I thought Obama had some good education ideas, but then he started talking about extending the school week/year and a lot of other bull. Nothing to help us teachers teach, just more hours. So as a teacher, I haven't seen any good come from this administration and I know a lot who feel like that. I read his proposal on PLC's (Professional Learning Communities) great ideas, but nothing came of it.
I hear people say that education in the 60's and 70's wasn't good. Well, it seems we were better educated back then.
I don't know if they are more difficult than the IOWA< . The new STARR tests are different, they are too new really to compare to anything so most of what I know about them is heresy since results are just coming in and we really don't know what the state is going to do. I'm trying to remember the IOWA test but it was called IOWA test of basic skills. If you learned the material you should be able to pass and do fine. But education is so different now, parents don't want their kids to fail, kind of like everyone gets a trophy mentality. We have to give kids so many "chances" to turn in late work, retake tests etc that it's not funny. The difference is we set the bar lower for the kids nowadays then we did back in the 70's or even the 80s.
Also, with the IOWA tests we weren't required to pass them in order to move to the next grade or graduate. I only remember taking IOWA tests in grades 1-6.
I graduated in 1960 from HS. We took the Iowa test......everyone did. How is that kind of testing different from what the test is, today? I know if we were not testing on grade level, we were held back. No one prepared us for the test. We were just expected to be able to pass it. It didn't seem like a big deal back them.
And your point is?
STONE, I miss the 60's too. It's NOT the 60's anymore.
Well, it explains a lot of what I am seeing regarding my medical care and insurance. I just found it was very interesting as it aligns with what I see happening to my medical care.
Well, it's not just me seeing these changes, a lot of others I have talked to are seeing the huge increases. We all feel this is to prepare for us to cover those lower premiums for others.
Yes, we as taxpayers have always paid for the uninsured now it seems as if we are paying more. Medical costs seem to be skyrocketing instead of going down. It's not just me noticing it, but others.
And those of us who are older and getting older are going to find how it affects us. My parents in their late 70's are already seeing how Medicare doesn't cover things it use to cover. Lucky for them they prepared well for retirement and have a supplemental plan, but they have ended up paying for a lot out of their pocket, large $$$ amounts.
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