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Re: Obama: Let's repeat auto industry success wi...
By: TxDeb
Aug 14, 2012 - 07:52 am
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I have a GM product (Cadillac) and love it. It has given me no problems except the normal one's......headlight burning out, etc.



I know I've posted this before but over there years we have had many American car products, Dodge, & Chevy's. Out of 5 vehicles we only had one a 1991 Dodge Caravan that didn't have major issues in the first few years of owning the vehicle usually just after the 3 year warranty expired. We have had 2 Toyota Corollas that have lasted well over 10 years and 150,000 miles with NO major issues, just routine maintenance. We want something we don't have to get rid of once it's paid for or before it's paid for, the American vehicles have not lasted that long with the exception of the Caravan.


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Re: Obama: Let's repeat auto industry success wi...
By: sstonetx
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:38 am
perhaps, you were unlucky enough to get lemons. I had a lemon years ago. I think it was a Dodge. It nearly drove me nuts. Even with a warranty, I was in the shop more than I was out of it.


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Re: Obama: Let's repeat auto industry success wi...
By: TxDeb
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:42 am
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perhaps, you were unlucky enough to get lemons. I had a lemon years ago. I think it was a Dodge. It nearly drove me nuts. Even with a warranty, I was in the shop more than I was out of it.



That would be a lot of lemons! Funny, I we have had 2 Toyotas and one Honda and they have outlasted all the Dodge and Chevy cars we have had. That tells me that the American car manufactures need to step it up in the quality department. Also the Toyota's and Honda have never had the MAJOR issues we had with the American cars. Normal maintenance yes. Also when checking the internet, other people were having the same issues we did with our cars.


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Re: Obama: Let's repeat auto industry success wi...
By: sstonetx
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:45 am
I remember back in the early mid 80's, Toyota had a reputation of being a car you didn't have to take in the shop.


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Re: Obama: Let's repeat auto industry success wi...
By: TxDeb
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:49 am
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I remember back in the early mid 80's, Toyota had a reputation of being a car you didn't have to take in the shop.



It's still that good. American car manufacturers need to take note.


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Re: Obama: Let's repeat auto industry success wi...
By: UKMatt
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:49 am
txwoodchuck writes:
It's good to have you keep this thread on the straight and narrow.



You're welcome

txwoodchuck writes:
Got any ideas to help GM?



Hey! It's a full time job fact checking you guys - if you'd stop with the bogus info I might have time to think about helping GM

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Re: Obama: Let's repeat auto industry success wi...
By: texbuck
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:57 am
They are doing extremely well in China ...... (GM)

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/gm-says-china-sales-hit


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Re: Obama: Let's repeat auto industry success wi...
By: sstonetx
Aug 14, 2012 - 11:59 am
At least we have something to export.


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Re: Obama: Let's repeat auto industry success wi...
By: texbuck
Aug 14, 2012 - 01:56 pm
sstonetx Aug 14, 2012 - 11:59 am

At least we have something to export.

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The cars are manufactured in China not exported.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500173_162-20110006.html


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Aug 14, 2012 - 09:47 pm
UKMatt writes:
txwoodchuck writes:
It's good to have you keep this thread on the straight and narrow.



You're welcome

txwoodchuck writes:
Got any ideas to help GM?



Hey! It's a full time job fact checking you guys - if you'd stop with the bogus info I might have time to think about helping GM

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No more baloney from me!!


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Aug 15, 2012 - 05:29 am
txwoodchuck writes:
UKMatt writes:
txwoodchuck writes:
It's good to have you keep this thread on the straight and narrow.



You're welcome

txwoodchuck writes:
Got any ideas to help GM?



Hey! It's a full time job fact checking you guys - if you'd stop with the bogus info I might have time to think about helping GM

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No more baloney from me!!



I may still have some.

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Re: Obama: Let's repeat auto industry success wi...
By: Sidragon
Aug 15, 2012 - 08:24 am
One of the reasons the US car makers are having such a hard time is because back in the early years of auto industry they had such a huge monopoly on the car industry that they actually built the cars to only last about 5 years. After Japan started rebuilding from WW2 the Japanese manufacturing took to people like Deming. Here is a Deming phrase.
Deming's message to Japan's chief executives: improving quality will reduce expenses while increasing productivity and market share. The United States Manufacturing did not really believe this at this time because they pretty much dismissed Deming. They believed that as long as you were within your thresh hold of tolerance that it was acceptable, where as Deming believed that you should get it as close to what it should be as possible so that there would be as little to no quality problems as possible.
It wasn't until the beginning of the 1980's that Ford decided to give Deming a try. Can you believe they waited that long?
They continued to make crap parts while the Japanese made superior parts and it still holds true today. American Auto Companies still have not figured it out. Atleast in my opinion. Sorry for the endless rant lol

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Re: Obama: Let's repeat auto industry success wi...
Aug 15, 2012 - 10:36 am
We have owned just about every make American car and nissan and toyota. I cannot complain about a single car or truck we have owned. I can't say one was better than the other. They all serviced us well.

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Re: Obama: Let's repeat auto industry success wi...
By: sstonetx
Aug 17, 2012 - 10:44 am
Also, some people are much harder on cars than others.


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Re: Obama: Let's repeat auto industry success wi...
By: TxDeb
Aug 17, 2012 - 02:21 pm
sstonetx writes:
Also, some people are much harder on cars than others.



Well, I don't drive far. The American cars I have had problems with started having major issues around 40,000 miles. My husband drives way more than I do, since he has to drive farther to work and we still have his old car, our youngest is driving it, no major issues at 150,000 miles.


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