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by: sillystring Active Indicator LED Icon 12 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Jul 1, '15 2:21pm  
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TxDeb Active Indicator LED Icon 6
~ 8 years ago   Jul 1, '15 5:02pm  
No there has to be better choices.
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CompassionateRebel Active Indicator LED Icon 6
~ 8 years ago   Jul 1, '15 6:38pm  
There 14 and counting to choose from in the GOP side. Donald is running really strong after his racist xenophobic rant aim at Mexicans.
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~ 8 years ago   Jul 2, '15 8:47am  
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Would anyone actually vote for her?
 
She is overloaded with baggage!
 
Given that I expect the current Republican primary hopefuls to show up for the debates in an actual clown car, if she gets the nomination then many will actually vote for her.
 
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~ 8 years ago   Jul 2, '15 9:46am  
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~ 8 years ago   Jul 2, '15 10:32am  
sillystring writes:
Is that a standard statement by the libs. Libs always talk about conservatives being in a clown car.
 
I am not aware of any "standard statement"... I made that comment based on my own assessment of the current pool of candidates. Perry, Santorum, Christie, Trump - really?
 
sillystring writes:
If you dislike anything about Obama, you are a racist.
 
I would never say that. If you say racist things about Obama then you're a racist. If you disagree with him for other reasons then that's a different matter.
 
sillystring writes:
If you disagree with the lib POV, you are a moron.
 
Also untrue. If you disagree for moronic reasons then you're a moron. If you disagree based on falacious rumor or inuendo then you might be a moron or you might be in denial or you might be plain stupid.
 
sillystring writes:
If you do not approve of the gay lifestyle and marriage, you are a bigot.
 
You don't have to approve of it - that is your right. But if you want to deny others basic rights because you don't approve of it then you're probably going to be criticized.
 
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~ 8 years ago   Jul 2, '15 10:37am  
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Is that a standard statement by the libs. Libs always talk about conservatives being in a clown car.
 
Not really defending the conservatives, not happy with them either.
 
Just seems the websites I read, the libs all make the exact same remarks.
 
If you dislike anything about Obama, you are a racist.
 
If you disagree with the lib POV, you are a moron.
 
If you do not approve of the gay lifestyle and marriage, you are a bigot.
 
It is just standard answers all the libs give.
 
I don't think I understand why it is like this.
 
I have certainly never said anything like that. The criticism that you levy against vacuous defamatory comments is precisely why opinions must be substantiated to be taken seriously. Giving credence to ignorant assertions because their author is "enthusiastic" simply encourages more of the same.
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~ 8 years ago   Jul 2, '15 11:29am  
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~ 8 years ago   Jul 2, '15 12:12pm  
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These are the standard responses I read on other websites. I just find it strange it seems to be universal.
 
I'm not accusing anyone of anything, just making an observation.
 
I am not sure why that would be strange - if everyone sees the sun rise in the East this morning and commented that "the sun rose in the East" that wouldn't be indicative of anything more than those people observed the same thing.
 
When "liberals" observe supposed Christians telling homosexuals that they will burn in hell, the fact those "Christians" will be referred to as bigots is not a sign of some kind of vast left wing conspiracy.
 
sillystring writes:
Edited to add: I like to read what other people think and hear their opinions, but once the name calling starts....haters, morons, racists, etc., I lose respect for that person and any further interest in their opinion.
 
As is your right.
 
sillystring writes:
Liberal and Conservatives have very different ideas about things and we can't seem to find middle ground anymore. I think we need to find middle ground.
 
The root cause of this is the artificial categorization of people as "Liberal" or "Conservative" as if each of those camps exists as a unified pool of people to be dismissed as lunatics if you're in the other camp.
 
The reality is most of us are somewhere in between the extremes. If we can agree compromise is not a dirty word but a necessary evil then we might be able to develop some mutually agreeable plans to move forward.
 
I feel like you have labeled me as a liberal but I don't agree with many liberal positions but am dismissed by many here as a loony leftist!
 
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~ 8 years ago   Jul 2, '15 12:32pm  
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~ 8 years ago   Jul 2, '15 1:38pm  
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I assumed you were liberal, ukmatt.
 
I am liberal on some things but not others. I have many "liberal" friends with whom I disagree on certain topics. For example, most conservatives seem to claim that _all_ liberals are supportive of endless welfare. I am not. I believe welfare is a necessary evil, a privilege that comes with responsibilities. If my taxes help you at the time of your greatest need, you had better be doing everything you can to help yourself and if you don't, the welfare doesn't just keep flowing.
 
sillystring writes:
I would never tell a homosexual they would burn in hell. It is not my decision to make.
 
I didn't mean to suggest you would. I am saying that some certainly have and they are called out for being what they are.
 
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~ 8 years ago   Jul 2, '15 1:48pm  
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~ 8 years ago   Jul 2, '15 3:16pm  
sillystring writes:
Wow, matt! You and I agree on the welfare program.
 
In all fairness, there are underlying problems with some on welfare. Drugs for one and it concerns me that gangs seem to try to recruit from the ranks of the poor.
 
I'm not sure why many of the welfare folks are not receiving education for a trade. Everyone is not meant to be a college graduate. I just think we keep throwing $$$ out there, but we are not insisting on a fix.
 
Some of these people are generational and believe their lifestyle is normal. I would love to see these folks given hope for a positive future and the skills to go with it.
 
Prescription drug abuse is ravaging middle to low income families. Meth is mainly used in small towns, USA. Medicare fraud is mainly perpetrated by the professional class, doctors, lawyers, lab owners, not so much by the enrollees who become tools for the unscrupulous providers. Are these generational crooks? Are these people generational drug users? I think if we added all the fraud in Medicare and Medicaid done by these crooks, will be enough to offer free, quality daycare for poor working families. Enough to start forgiving some of the college student debt, enough to enroll every single infant in a quality daycare program.
However, in Texas we are heading the other way.
texaslsg.org/wp-cont ent/uploads/2014/03/ texas
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~ 8 years ago   Jul 2, '15 3:30pm  
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~ 8 years ago   Jul 2, '15 3:32pm  
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~ 8 years ago   Jul 2, '15 5:48pm  
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Wow, matt! You and I agree on the welfare program.
 
In all fairness, there are underlying problems with some on welfare. Drugs for one and it concerns me that gangs seem to try to recruit from the ranks of the poor.
 
I'm not sure why many of the welfare folks are not receiving education for a trade. Everyone is not meant to be a college graduate. I just think we keep throwing $$$ out there, but we are not insisting on a fix.
 
Some of these people are generational and believe their lifestyle is normal. I would love to see these folks given hope for a positive future and the skills to go with it.
 
Prescription drug abuse is ravaging middle to low income families. Meth is mainly used in small towns, USA. Medicare fraud is mainly perpetrated by the professional class, doctors, lawyers, lab owners, not so much by the enrollees who become tools for the unscrupulous providers. Are these generational crooks? Are these people generational drug users? I think if we added all the fraud in Medicare and Medicaid done by these crooks, will be enough to offer free, quality daycare for poor working families. Enough to start forgiving some of the college student debt, enough to enroll every single infant in a quality daycare program.
However, in Texas we are heading the other way.
texaslsg.org/wp-cont ent/uploads/2014/03/ texas
 
Remember though when you start talking "Free" the money has to come from somewhere. You still have to pay daycare employees, who are paid at a low rate. There are some daycares who offer discounted rates based on salary.
 
Some college loan debts are forgiven. If you are a teacher in a Title I or low income school you can get some of your loan forgiven. Should we be forgiving loans of doctors and lawyers?
 
There was a push many years ago to require welfare recipients to attend job training, never went over very well because it would violate their rights. Just as you can not force prison inmates to work anymore it violates their civil rights.
 
Somewhere down the line someone will have to pay for all the "Free" stuff people get.
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