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by: sillystring Active Indicator LED Icon 12 OP 
~ 9 years ago   Aug 27, '14 3:36pm  
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CecilQ Active Indicator LED Icon 7
~ 9 years ago   Aug 27, '14 4:57pm  
sillystring writes:
With our borders unsecured, I'm guessing they are already here.
 
How concerned are you about ISIS?
 
Not a lot about the organization "infiltrating" the United States. A lot more concerned about the children of peaceful American Muslims (either native-born or immigrant [like the Tsarnaev brothers of the Boston Marathon bombing]) becoming "radicalized" and killing our countrymen.
 
My biggest fear is that we will be compelled to admit thousands of Muslims from Iraq and Afghanistan (as those countries fall to Islamofascism [like Vietnamese after the Vietnam War]) whose lives would be otherwise forfeit because of their cooperation with American forces when we were in occupation of their countries. Their children would be ripe for "radicalization".
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~ 9 years ago   Aug 27, '14 5:24pm  
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~ 9 years ago   Aug 27, '14 6:50pm  
sillystring writes:
Very valid points, CecilQ.
 
I had not even thought of those possibilities.
 
I am equally concerned about ISIS being here amongst us. They are ruthless killers.
 
While ISIL killers are psychopathic murderers, there aren't that many of them. I've seen estimates at about 10K (admittedly soft.) Al-Queda has actually condemned them. Their notoriety arises from their insanely brutal killing which is precisely the reason that they engage in that behavior. Like the Jacobins of the French Revolution, they will eventually die out. No sane population can live for more than a limited period under the leadership of an ideology that kills casually and horrifically. The chance that any of them will make their way to Mexico before their fellow Muslims neutralize them is limited.
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Makk9 Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 9 years ago   Aug 27, '14 7:30pm  
Cecil, amazingly, I agree with you. You made my day!
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sillystring Active Indicator LED Icon 12 OP 
~ 9 years ago   Aug 29, '14 6:35pm  
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CecilQ Active Indicator LED Icon 7
~ 9 years ago   Aug 30, '14 5:47pm  
 
What a bunch of cr*p. An entirely unaccredited report that spikes its verbiage with buzz words meant to impress but has absolutely no substantive information to convey.
 
I'm sure that there are no end of violent psychopaths south of the border who would like to do us harm. It is extraordinarily unlikely that ISIL is represented among them and only slightly less likely that any of the others will make it across.
 
Not to say that it is impossible. However, physically interdicting people (including terrorists) at the borderline is only one part of the Homeland Security operation.
 
Intelligence operations are much more important. The security services will have dossiers on any potential threat (particularly if he is of Middle-Eastern origin) who shows up in northern Mexico.
 
This is just more Right-Wing fright propaganda, as the cited article should have made obvious.
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~ 9 years ago   Aug 31, '14 7:41am  
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Makk9 Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 9 years ago   Aug 31, '14 9:57am  
If it is accurate, and if there are indeed terrorists plotting an attack from Mexico that might come to pass, they (Obama and the socialist democratic arm of the democratic party, which includes Cecil) will say that lack of Republican funding in Congress for Obama's border policies caused it. They WANT a weakened US. The border is the easiest, most straightforward issue to solve in today's current events. At is not to say that enforcement is an easy task, it is only to say that the proper solution is not unknown or elusive. They simply don't want it solved. They resist the call to protect our southern border continually, and with much vigor in their continued resistance.
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CecilQ Active Indicator LED Icon 7
~ 9 years ago   Aug 31, '14 10:28am  
Makk9 writes:
If it is accurate ...
 
Yes, "if", but so far no one in authority has claimed that it is. The supposed authority for the article you cited are "high-level federal law enforcement, intelligence and other sources." Perhaps were they to shed their anonymity, we could evaluate their gravitas. However, as things stand, the article's assertion is incredible.
 
You further assume that the administration is doing nothing to prevent a cross-border attack by ISIL. In fact, that eventuality is within the purview of the Department of Homeland Security. It is safe to assume that some of its $39 billion funding this year is going towards preventing just such an assault.
 
The specter of ISIL cadres massing south of the border in anticipation of an invasion is a fanciful creation of Right-Wing propagandists who are using it as a hook to trick people into reading, again, their tired anti-Obama diatribes.
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TxDeb Active Indicator LED Icon 6
~ 9 years ago   Aug 31, '14 1:27pm  
Not saying it's true, but it wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to invade the US through Mexico. The German Empire proposed it to Mexico in a telegram the "Zimmerman telegram" .
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Makk9 Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 9 years ago   Aug 31, '14 2:33pm  
I didn't cite the article, I only commented on it. To say that there's $39 billion in border enforcement funding by typing out the DHS budget is ludicrous. Incremental funding, or action, on the administration's part is non-existent practically. In fact, protection presently and historically in place is diminished via Obama policy directed at the US Border Patrol. I really don't understand spending money and resources on questionable military measures in Iraq when we have this awful situation on our own border with Mexico, where if the same money were spent would perhaps lead to "victory"...victory in that we would actually have a secure border and better protection of our nation and sovereignty. In Korea there is the demilitarized zone that we spend lots of money guarding, where is that effort here, in our own backyard? I'd think a threat to us directly would be of equal importance to a threat to South Korea from North Korea. Just sayin'
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